Comments on: Five levels of demonic oppression http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/five-levels-of-demonic-oppression/ Where is the charismatic church and where should it be going? Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:38:58 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Logiczone http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/five-levels-of-demonic-oppression/#comment-372 Logiczone Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:28:31 +0000 http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-372 Hi there. I am a church youth leader. And I have experienced deliverance before. And I have a problem now. I am fighting against lust. Which I believe that I have a demonic struggle. I remember once, a questionable leader layed hand upon me and It was during an encountering God retreat. But later I learned that the person who prayed over me was some kind immorall. I believe there is something to deal with this. I just want to ask advice from you on what I will do. And I also want to know if there's anything to do with my lustful struggle nowadays. And what is the urgent thing I need to do. Waiting for your reply. Hi there. I am a church youth leader. And I have experienced deliverance before. And I have a problem now. I am fighting against lust. Which I believe that I have a demonic struggle. I remember once, a questionable leader layed hand upon me and It was during an encountering God retreat. But later I learned that the person who prayed over me was some kind immorall. I believe there is something to deal with this.

I just want to ask advice from you on what I will do.
And I also want to know if there’s anything to do with my lustful struggle nowadays.
And what is the urgent thing I need to do.

Waiting for your reply.

]]> By: thinkingriddles http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/five-levels-of-demonic-oppression/#comment-360 thinkingriddles Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:38:30 +0000 http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-360 You could have a number of things happening, but I don't think any of them are related to a handshake. Here are some options 1. A member of your leadership team is involved in and covering up sexual sin. 2. Witchcraft against your team. If this is the case, the "common person" that shows up is likely NOT the person associated with the sexual sin, but a person that the devil wants to victimize. 3. You have been rebuking principalities such as "The Spirit of Lust over the City." The Bible does not instruct us to rebuke principalities of the air, only demons of the earth. You could have a number of things happening, but I don’t think any of them are related to a handshake. Here are some options

1. A member of your leadership team is involved in and covering up sexual sin.
2. Witchcraft against your team. If this is the case, the “common person” that shows up is likely NOT the person associated with the sexual sin, but a person that the devil wants to victimize.
3. You have been rebuking principalities such as “The Spirit of Lust over the City.” The Bible does not instruct us to rebuke principalities of the air, only demons of the earth.

]]> By: Renee http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/five-levels-of-demonic-oppression/#comment-359 Renee Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:23:20 +0000 http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-359 Hi, I am a leader in our church and I do have a prophetic annointing in intercession. I have a question concerning demonic lustful and perverted dreams attacking me and other intercessors as well as our Pastors lately. Talking with them I am confident that they have not opened up a door in that area and neither have I. Haven't been anywhere but at church. This has happened to each of us at least twice in the last month or two. I have took authority over the spirit of lust and perversion and plead the blood of Jesus over my dreams and evrypart of my body and mind, even my sexual organs. And I have not had anymore problems. The only thing that we have had in common to picking up any thing is at church. Could we be having attacks by being in contact with someone or someones who have lustful and perverted influences in their lives? And I mean contact like in hugging or handshake or even in praying over them? I just don't think it is a coincidence. In the dreams there seems to be a common person that shows up also. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks and God Bless you. Hi,
I am a leader in our church and I do have a prophetic annointing in intercession. I have a question concerning demonic lustful and perverted dreams attacking me and other intercessors as well as our Pastors lately. Talking with them I am confident that they have not opened up a door in that area and neither have I.
Haven’t been anywhere but at church. This has happened to each of us at least twice in the last month or two.
I have took authority over the spirit of lust and perversion and plead the blood of Jesus over my dreams and evrypart of my body and mind, even my sexual organs. And I have not had anymore problems. The only thing that we have had in common to picking up any thing is at church. Could we be having attacks by being in contact with someone or someones who have lustful and perverted influences in their lives? And I mean contact like in hugging or handshake or even in praying over them? I just don’t think it is a coincidence. In the dreams there seems to be a common person that shows up also. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks and God Bless you.

]]> By: beatthedrum http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/five-levels-of-demonic-oppression/#comment-279 beatthedrum Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:12:49 +0000 http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-279 Looks like it is the old uncommon language barrier again! Yeah i agree there is a kicking out process much as you have outlined. Looks like it is the old uncommon language barrier again!

Yeah i agree there is a kicking out process much as you have outlined.

]]> By: thinkingriddles http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/five-levels-of-demonic-oppression/#comment-278 thinkingriddles Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:42:47 +0000 http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-278 Thanks. Maybe I should have been more technical. When I was referring to "the devil" what I should have said was "a demon." Perhaps this distinction is more pronounced in British parlance. Also, I wouldn't be one to suggest at all that the devil is "to blame" I'm really saying that a demon is involved in the process of sin. When you sin, you let him in, and he sets up so that he can keep you in, so when you stop, there is often an eviction process. So while I'm not a "demon under every bush" person, I lean toward seeing sanctification as closely aligned with taking victory over personal demonic forces. Thanks. Maybe I should have been more technical. When I was referring to “the devil” what I should have said was “a demon.” Perhaps this distinction is more pronounced in British parlance.

Also, I wouldn’t be one to suggest at all that the devil is “to blame” I’m really saying that a demon is involved in the process of sin. When you sin, you let him in, and he sets up so that he can keep you in, so when you stop, there is often an eviction process. So while I’m not a “demon under every bush” person, I lean toward seeing sanctification as closely aligned with taking victory over personal demonic forces.

]]> By: beatthedrum http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/five-levels-of-demonic-oppression/#comment-277 beatthedrum Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:34:39 +0000 http://churchrevolution.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-277 An excellent post BUT i think we need to be carefull in this area. Speaking from a position of having had a demon manifest in me, a tale for another time maybe, i do agree with most of what you have put I dont think the Devil is involved with me persoanlly or with many people. We have to remember he is NOT God or even like God. He can only be in one place at any given time so to say that he personally has a hand in our lives is false. There are however myriads of demons who can be. Its interesting that in th NT Jesus never casts our the Devil from people but Demons. I also think that us Charismatics often get drawn into blaming the sin in our lives on the devil / demons when it is infact our sinfull nature and flesh. Certain novels / books from the eighties and nineties over egged the demonic and this has crept into popular charismatic circles. An excellent post BUT i think we need to be carefull in this area. Speaking from a position of having had a demon manifest in me, a tale for another time maybe, i do agree with most of what you have put

I dont think the Devil is involved with me persoanlly or with many people. We have to remember he is NOT God or even like God. He can only be in one place at any given time so to say that he personally has a hand in our lives is false.

There are however myriads of demons who can be. Its interesting that in th NT Jesus never casts our the Devil from people but Demons.

I also think that us Charismatics often get drawn into blaming the sin in our lives on the devil / demons when it is infact our sinfull nature and flesh.

Certain novels / books from the eighties and nineties over egged the demonic and this has crept into popular charismatic circles.

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